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The Sovereign Rights of Underwater Countries

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: The Sovereign Rights of Underwater Countries Reply with quote

In a NYT opinion piece "Life After Land", ROSEMARY RAYFUSE addresses the question about what happens to the fishing, mineral, etc. rights of island nations like Tuvalu, Kiribati, the Marshall Islands and the Maldives if they become submerged due to sea level rising from global warming.

I guess I'm just glad someone is planning ahead...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My own prognosis is that sea levels will fall dramatically.

I won't get into that fight with your here, but if they did fall...then what?

What about the 5 mile or 200 mile limit....imagine if our own coastline were suddenly 500 miles wider. Would we still allow Albanians to wander 10 miles inland to collect copper, or mollusks...or would a new "Law of the Rising Land" replace the Law of the Sea?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Global cooling and glaciation would be the typical mechanisms for causing the sea level drop you predict. Are you also predicting these phenomena? Or have you found a new angle or "font" of scientific knowledge?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vapor + earth expansion.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The earth is expanding?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<b>As Alaska Glaciers Melt, Itís Land Thatís Rising </b>

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JUNEAU, Alaska ó Global warming conjures images of rising seas that threaten coastal areas. But in Juneau, as almost nowhere else in the world, climate change is having the opposite effect: As the glaciers here melt, the land is rising, causing the sea to retreat.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/18/science/earth/18juneau.html


Yes! The Earth is Expanding. Part 1 of 14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f6hcGJbjL0
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're a crazy mofo. Did you know that?

So, if we had a lot of glaciers, then the reduced weight on the plate would tend to make that plate "bob" up a bit. Another good reason to own Alaskan shore property maybe. But for the rest of us, there's another theory, and unless I'm prepared to seem an ignorant boob, I've got to watch all 14 parts and read commentary from people who think that it might be "spiritually true", for instance. How else to explain pangaia?

Erosion raises sea levels. Earthquakes raise sea levels. These phenomenon tend to even out the difference between altitudes. Plate collisions would tend to both raise and lower them, and now we can add that glacier depletion raises land locally relative to the ocean. How about ocean depletion?

It's like you are throwing sand in my face. Mission accomplished, sir.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to talk more...but I'm scouting dachas on the edge of the Northwest Territories.

6 months of sunshine.

$5 an acre.

I can't wait....
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