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How Many People Are There...Really?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: How Many People Are There...Really? Reply with quote

During the last three years I have exhaustively reviewed and analyzed the data, polemic and research put forth by Climate Change advocates. I won't re-iterate my viewpoints, expressed here in other threads; however, it got me a-thinking...what other central metrics that color the current socio-political ethos could possibly be radically...totally...wrong!

I was thinking about population. When I was born in 1960, there were 3 billion people on Earth. Now there are 6 billion (no wonder it's so more difficult for me to find a parking space!)...or so they tell me. But, on what basis are there 6 billion people. This population number is put forth with such certitude and in so many places, you would think (like in the case of Climate Change) that the research is obvious, patent, available...it should be in the top 10 or at least top 40 in a Google search...right? But I sure couldn't find it.

But then I start to think...how would you even approach such a topic. From tax returns in the US to satellite imagery in Africa? From citizen ID cards in China to number of outrigger canoes in Micronesia? How does it all add up.

In fact, does it really add up at all?

I'd like to make a guess here.

I guesstimate two things:

(a) That there are only 1 billion people on Earth
(b) That global population has plateaued and is no longer growing.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285405

Is China's economy about to implode?

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Mr. Chanos is worried that China's surging real estate sector, brought on by huge investments in speculative capital, looks like, "Dubai times 1,000 or worse." He even has suspicions that China may be falsifying its economic numbers including its growth rate of more than 8 per cent, reports the New York Times.


Did the 'people' forget to show up?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you post it under "hoop shots", it's okay for me to laugh,
isn't it?

I get the image of Chinese "Potempkin villages". All facades
propped up from behind, and a platoon of "extras" hurriedly
rushing by when any westerner, or census taker appears on
the scene.

I admire your skeptical program, but I'm thinking that you don't
take it far enough. Maybe there aren't even a billion people.
Maybe not even a million. Maybe even *you* don't really exist.

Blows your mind, right?

Am I right?

Am I right or am I right?

(If I'm right, there's no need to reply. I'll understand.)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, in the absence of any examinable counting method or transparency yes, why not a million?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read that the "television audience" for Super Bowl XIV was 106.5 million viewers...the highest recorded audience ever, breaking the record for the final episode of MASH in 1983.

This brings up the question. What were the 193.5 million other people doing?

As much as I marvel at the size of the tv audience, I am astounded that there can be that many people not watching something so pervasive. Have you met these people? In theory, each one of us should know two other people who did not watch the SuperBowl.

Or...could it be that...(see OP in thread)...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it turns out, I did some errands and then drove to a friend's house
during part of the first and second quarter. Maybe I'm not so
obsessive about the game, though I do enjoy it.

As I drove, my thoughts ran to wondering who the people I saw were.
I realized it was quite a different mix than I would normally see.
I saw quite a few women, and people who looked to be of a different
nationality. The driving seemed unusually relaxed. The only
thing I saw otherwise was a sullen guy waiting for a bus. Maybe
his car broke down on the way to see the game with friends.

Of course, I didn't see 193 million people, so it's still possible for
your strange hypothesis to be true.

It is telling though, that you apparently don't believe that there
are examinable counting methods or transparency. It appears
to be an "argument from ignorance". Either that or you're working
up a bit for a stand up routine. After all, census data is freely
available online, broken down by tracts within a city. And cities
howl when they think there might be as much as a 2% undercount
within certain neighborhoods or demographics. It's in a lot of
peoples' interest to make sure that the counts are right. Heck, I've
even worked for the census (back in 1990).

You would need a pretty thoroughgoing skepticism to hold to your
hoopshot. That is why I was surprised that you didn't express
doubt about your own existence. That would indicate a very
highly calibrated degree of skepticism on your part.
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