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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Plasma Cosmology Reply with quote

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/#

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While conventional astronomy maps magnetism, electric currents are excluded on the mistaken basis that they are of no significance in space.

Working from the inertia of this prior belief, astrophysicists have a tendency to talk in euphemisms. 'Electron rains' and 'clouds of ionized gas' are just two examples. From a conservative perspective these terms might seem easier to grasp than the behaviour of more ethereal plasma, but they are, nonetheless, obfuscations. In reality we are talking about electrodynamic phenomena.

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It is important to understand that gravity based models were codified before space travel and high powered telescopes. Back then our galaxy, The Milky Way, was considered the entirety of the universe ... and electrically sterile! Instead of trying to shoehorn what we now see into old models, Plasma Cosmology respects the progress of the past, but is not constrained by it. Scientific theories, by definition, are vulnerable to being falsified. Science moves on. "It is an embarrassment that the dominant forms of matter in the universe remain hypothetical!" Jim Peebles


Grandfather of PC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfven

Interview/Podcast with the author of "The Electric Sky", a book explaining and extolling PC:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/01jan/RICR-070111.html

Excepts from "The Electric Sky"

http://www.mikamar.biz/book-info/tes-a.htm#Synopsis

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Plasma physicists know that 96% of the universe is not made up of “invisible matter” but rather of matter in the plasma state. Electromagnetic forces between electrical charges are many orders of magnitude stronger than Newton’s gravitational force, and we are finding that deep space is filled with electrical charges and magnetic energy. In fact, using the accepted estimated value of the magnetic field strength in the volume between our Sun and its nearest stellar neighbor, this field stores an amount of energy that would keep the Sun radiating for about 200 years.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Plasma Cosmology Reply with quote

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...using the accepted estimated value of the magnetic field strength in the volume between our Sun and its nearest stellar neighbor, this field stores an amount of energy that would keep the Sun radiating for about 200 years.


First impression? This does not seem like an impressive figure.
The volume of space b/t them is on the order of 3 light years by
the circumference of the sun. By a rough calculation, I estimate
the volume b/t the two is some 20-40 million times the volume of
the sun. The sun has radiated and will radiate at roughly its
current level for about 10 billion years. About 50 million times
as long. This might tend to put this phenomenon as 1.5 * 10^-15th
as energetic as the sun (3*10^7 * 5*10^7).

Ten to the 15th is a very large number. More precisely, One over ten
to the 15th is a very small one. One millionth of a billionth.

Still, I'm not arguing against this theory, just trying to put the claim
in perspective. Maybe I'll read the article now...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I would like to know what you think when you've read further because it does seem extraordinary to me, in the same sense as your skepticism, that the entire field of cosmology would have "missed" the Electric Sky theory!

I think his basic argument is that the size of the electric/magnetic fields generated by bodies like stars is so enormous that they account for the range...still, I'm not a cosmologist! I'm not even a cosmetician!

Another thought: it seems like even the mainstream physics community is bucking for a change in cosmology. There has been so much back and forth lately (dark matter; no dark matter; black holes, no black holes) that it might be an indication the field is ripe for a paradigm shift. Here's a recent article from Scientific American:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-end-of-cosmology

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It is hard to think of an area of intellectual inquiry that has changed more in the past century than cosmology, and the shift has transformed how we view the world. But must science in the future always reflect more empirical knowledge than existed in the past? Our recent work suggests that on cosmic timescales, the answer is no. We may be living in the only epoch in the history of the universe when scientists can achieve an accurate understanding of the true nature of the universe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For example, an indication of the dominance of the magnetic
force is demonstrated by a ball bearing on a table. All of Earth’s
baryonic mass exerts a gravitational pull on the bearing, preventing
it from lifting off the table. Yet, the smallest horseshoe
magnet easily snatches it away. On a cosmic scale, magnetic
energy density can also exceed gravitational energy density. For
example, in the local supercluster, the magnetic field energy
density exceeds the gravitational energy density by at least an
order of magnitude [4].


http://members.cox.net/dascott3/IEEE-TransPlasmaSci-Scott-Aug2007.pdf
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: How Strong Is An Electron? Reply with quote

From The Electric Universe by Wallace Thornhill and David Talbott:

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...the electric force is about 10+E39 times stronger than gravitational force. That means one thousand trillion trillion times as strong. And this is why, in the presense of electrical forces within plasma -- even when the numbers of ionized atoms may seem insignificant--gravity can be so easily overcome.

...Richard Feynman...calculated the electrical force that would occur between the two people if their bodies contained only one percent more electrons than protons. His answer: the repelling force...would be sufficient to lift a weight equal to that of hte entire Earth!


The book:

http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Universe-Wallace-Thornhill-Talbott/dp/0977285138


General info:

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/
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