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Location: Kent (East Hill), WA

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject: PSE: You Can't Win! Reply with quote

PSE, Puget Sound Energy is my electric monopoly. One thing they provide is a very nice user web site that can break down usage at a very detailed level.

I almost wish they didn't. I found out that my energy costs went up this month from 2005. Strangely, my usage went down! Yet there are 1 fewer days in the billing cycle and my per day costs are lower?!

Reason for increase? kW costs. Yeah, I know, you may claim that its oil costs...but I thought WA state runs on hydropower. And what about coal. I didn't hear anything about a "coal crises".

Did you?


Billing Days:
29 days
30 days

Average Use per Day
15.86 kWh / day
17.67 kWh / day

Average Cost per kWh:
$ 0.0663 / kWh
$ 0.0516 / kWh

Total Electric Charges:
$ 38.54
$ 35.16
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Energy costs are going up and that is the trend for the
foreseeable future. Your PSE web site should also list
their "mix" of energy sources. You may find your
answer there. Hydro power is generally "fixed". There
is only a limited amount of it, and very little, if any,
new sources are being brought online.

Marginal energy is brought in from elsewhere, largely from
natural gas. Even "clean Oregon" utilities have something
like 40% coming from coal.

There could be other sources of increase. I now pay $10
a month to be a customer of PGE. A few years back it was
$5. Also, they've started breaking down the per kwh price
into generation, transmission, and distribution. The PGE
bill is very confusing, with various credits and debits tacked
on at the end. Not counting the base charge, I pay about 8
cents per kwh, but it could easily go to 10 or 12 within a year.
After that we're off to the races. It seems entirely likely to
me that we'll see increases in cost / kwh of 10% over general
inflation for the next 5-10 years.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...since they are so big on information and spent so much building their website, I put in a request by email that they break down my personal usage by energy type -- just where is the energy they are selling me coming from?

I'll follow with updates, if there are any.
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